Shawn DC Larson: Can you tell me about
your transition of a town of 1000 people to the mega city Nashville? Was it pretty
much just pack up your bags, get moved, and boom your signed to a major record
deal?
Mark Schultz: I
was with the singers group at Colby Community College and I wrote some songs and
they let me perform them. That was a good confidence builder. Then, I went to
KS State and I was in the K-State Singers, which is a nice little group of 12.
I sort a traveled around and did my own
they let me do my own songs there,
that was great. I graduated from K-State and the week after I moved to Nashville,
became a waiter. Had a marketing degree and became a waiter. Started off into
the music business, it was awful and I hated it. I wasn't doing anything musical
because I was so tired from being in the music business. I met up with a youth
minister at the restaurant. He came up to my table and we got to talking. He and
his wife, they were great and he said, "You need to come be a youth minister."
I said, "No way in a million years will I be a youth minister." He talked
me into it and I came and I fell in love with the kids, fell in love with the
job. Been there for 7 years. I decided I'm not gonna to be a singer-guy any more,
I'm gonna be a youth-guy. Fell in love with it and just started writing songs
about the kids and the youth group and there it is. The rest is history.
Shawn DC Larson: How
has your music affected the people who have listened to your CDs and concerts?
Mark Schultz: I've
been overwhelmed with the mail. I think one song in particular "He's My Son",
just
that song was never meant to be a radio song. That was for a family
in our youth group that I just wanted to write a song about. Never meant to be
on a record, never meant to, we just put it on there. The first time they played
it, they didn't play it on a Christian station, they started playing it on mainstream
stations. Which is cool, it's about a dad praying about his son. They played it
on a country station in St. Louis and they got a thousand e-mails about it. I
just went "wow". So I started everywhere I went on tours and radio stations
they said play that song, I like that song and the phone lines would light up
and people would call for 30 minutes, 40 minutes
it was pretty unbelievable.
I thought to myself, you know here's another song I tried to write for 3 months
and I felt like a complete looser and I gave up and came back 20 min later and
God wrote it in 45 minutes. It was done and I just went "that had nothing
to do with me". Again, it's getting back and going I'm nothing, it's up to
God.
Shawn DC Larson:
Has there been a change of style from your first album to your second?
Mark Schultz: There's
not one song on the next album that sounds like the next one. And, I think this
one is a better record. Which is hard to do your 2nd one out. You're first one
has all your babies on it. This 2nd one, I gotta tell you, a lot of the kids in
the youth group like it better than the 1st one.
Shawn DC Larson: What's
your favorite song on it?
Mark Schultz: It's
hard to say. There's a song called, "Back in His Arms Again", which
is a song about a kid who left the youth group, got a way from God, came back
one night and said, "You know what, I think I got away from God and I don't
think He knows where I'm at." I looked in the scripture where it talks about
the shepherd and the sheep, 100 of them and one getting' away and God, the shepherd,
doesn't stay with all of them he just goes and finds the lost one. . . .Talks
about Jesus pickin' him up and walkin' him back to the rest of the flock. Another
song I wrote, "I've Been There". . .Talks about there's no place you
can go where God hasn't already been. No matter how low you get, God's already
been there and He wait for you there, to get there. Phenomenal thing, so you don't
walk through that alone. Another favorite of mine, been a favorite song of mine
since 1985, we did a remix of "Mister Mister's Kyrie and it smokes. It is
the coolest thing and I love that, too. Those are probably, I don't know, I sing
a song with Rachel Lampa , a huge ballad, I love it and I do a duet with Chris
Rice. A song called "Holy One".
Shawn DC Larson: Was
Chris Rice fun to work with?
Mark Schultz: He's
awesome. Unbelievable, a great guy.
Shawn DC Larson: Do
you have family?
Mark Schultz: I
come from a family, but I'm not married or anything.
Shawn DC Larson: What's
it like being a professional musician with family, friends, music, youth group
all competing with your time? Is it like a juggling act?
Mark Schultz: It's
hard. I wish I could say, "Oh, man it all fits together perfectly" but
it's a mess. At times horrible. At times I feel like, "What am I doing, why
am I doing this?" I stick with it for a while and I feel God saying, "You
know what, you don't need to kill yourself or ruin all your relationships to be
on the road." That was the thing I realized the first year that all the relationships
that made me who I am, I haven't got to invest in those. When you're on the road
you meet people for 20 seconds at a time. Instead of going a mile deep with the
folks that have meant the most to you, you go about a fingernail depth with a
lot more folks. At the end of the day, you're pretty empty if you don't have that,
even though people pour out what the songs mean, you're missing their history
and walkin' with somebody. That's hard to do when you're gone all the time. I'm
tryin' to work now.
Shawn DC Larson: What
about your relationship with Jesus? is it hard too putting that into the mix?
Mark Schultz: What
I'm realizing, here's the thing
if I didn't have the youth group, I'd be
in a world of trouble. You can get so busy singing, you can forget why you're
doing it, you're just in a bus, you're traveling and you get in the bus and travel
and sing, you get in the bus, travel, sing. What you don't allow yourself time
to do, is what Jesus talks about the most: When I get, when there's too many people
around and it gets crowded and you can't think, he just goes off and just has
quiet time, prays by himself, gets away. That's one thing on the road you can't
do very well. You're always
I went with the youth group this last week to
CO to a leadership mission trip. That whole week it rained, so we had to stay
indoors, and we just prayed all week. Some of the best times of listening, I've
ever had.
Shawn DC Larson: Establishing
a relationship with the Lord. Obviously that's a priority
how do you make
in your 1st priority as a professional.
Mark Schultz: For
me, I've gotta have accountability. Accountability is it's not comfortable for
me to still be with the youth group, because of my schedule, nor does it fit my
schedule to be a youth guy and do music all the time. Those two things bang head,
but I need them both to be fulfilled. So you almost have to put yourself in a
front row position to you're your feet grounded to say, "You are going to
do this, if you stop it you're wasting your time because you're not being used."
Shawn DC Larson: Speaking
of accountability when you're out on the road, do you make it a habit to go to
different churches, visiting different places so you can have that accountability?
Mark Schultz: To
tell you the truth, no. Because if we have a Sat show in FL and a Sun show in
Alabama, we're in a bus the whole time going over there. I'm going to start traveling
with youth ministers, bringing them on the road with me if I ever get the chance
because that's when we're together the most.
Shawn Larson: Can
you give some advice to unsigned groups that are coming up here to Estes Park
for the GMA Christian Artists Conference
Mark Schultz: It
sounds lame, but it's true. Do what you're doing, right there where you're doin'
it. Just be that and be it the best you can be. If God intends for you to
he'll
move things for you. It takes puttin' your heart out there and kinda puttin' yourself
out there, it feels uncomfortable. For me, as soon as I stopped worrying about,
I wanna be a performer, a songwriter, a music person, it happened. Because I fell
in love with the kids in youth group and I found out what God wanted me to do.
I started writing songs for the kids, thinking maybe this is what I am suppose
to do is just write and make their experiences richer by having songs that communicate
to people what God's done through these kids, then it ended up on a record and
then it just touches people and then I go, you know what, it had nothing to do
with me. I think the biggest part is, just take yourself out of the equation.
I think I do my best work and strongest stuff when I realize I am a minor part
to a big picture instead of thinking everything revolves around me. When I take
myself out of it God is free to use you, you're not using God. You let God use
you, instead of you telling God how it's gonna be, let God tell you how it's gonna
be. I don't know how many times I've gone into our youth minister's office with
tears in my eyes and gone you know what? God just used the "stupid guy"
again. Because, stuff happens and God works through me, not just music but just
hangin' out with the kids and havin' the right things to say at the right time
when I thought I was just babbling and kids go "you know, that thing right
there changed my life". And I go "you know what, you're not talkin'
to me, you're talking to God because I was just babblin'". So, to me that
s the biggest thing, just take yourself out of the equation and just do what God
asks, "just let me use you for my purpose"
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